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- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 04:30:06 PDT
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #230
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- Ham-Policy Digest Wed, 1 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 230
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARRL Replies to proposed rules on Vanity Calls (2 msgs)
- Legal Protections for Hams
-
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- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: 31 May 1994 20:21:29 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL Replies to proposed rules on Vanity Calls
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <5c.6608.22.0N17C6EA@pplace.com>,
- Pat Wilson <pat.wilson@pplace.com> wrote:
- >Is it just me, (what an opening, huh) or is no-one else against the
- >changes the ARRL wants to make in the Vanity Call proposal?
-
- Well, as far as I'm concerned it may be just you...
-
- >1. Calls belong to individuals, not as heirlooms to be willed down the
- > line of breeding.
-
- Callsigns don't "belong" to anyone, they're assigned for use by the FCC.
- However, if we're going to let people select unused callsigns, it seems
- perfectly reasonable to let an individual have first crack at the
- callsign previously assigned to their late father, mother, or other relative.
-
-
- >2. Clubs should get in line, just like anyone else to receive calls,
- > not get special dispensation. They are no better, nor worse than
- > anyone individual. The MAN makes the call, not the CALL making the
- > man (club).
-
-
- I disagree. If an individual was an active member of a club, the club
- may well wish to memorialize him/her by keeping their callsign in use.
- And it seems totally proper to me that a club should be able to do this,
- and that it be considered a higher priority than making the callsing
- previously assigned to a deceased individual available to a non-relative.
-
- >3. If you can't get one outa ten, what on earth makes you think you can
- > get one in TWENTY FIVE. (You should research a little more
- > carefully.)
-
- I'm not a mathamatician, but I believe that one is 2.5 times more likely
- to find an available call with a list of 25 than with a list of 10.
-
-
- Bottom line, the ARRL comments seem quite reasonable to me.
-
- 73, Andy
- --
- ______________________ Andrew Funk, KB7UV ______________________
- | ENG Editor/Microwave Control, WCBS-TV Channel 2 News, New York |
- | Internet: kb7uv@panix.com Packet: kb7uv@kb7uv.#nli.ny.usa |
- | --- INSERT COMMERCIAL HERE --- |
-
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-
- Date: 1 Jun 1994 00:45:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ssd.intel.com!chnews!cmoore@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL Replies to proposed rules on Vanity Calls
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- Andrew Funk (kb7uv@panix.com) wrote:
- : However, if we're going to let people select unused callsigns, it seems
- : perfectly reasonable to let an individual have first crack at the
- : callsign previously assigned to their late father, mother, or other relative.
-
- Hi Andy, I would like to have first crack at my old call sign that the
- FCC made me give up when I moved from Texas to California in 1971.
-
- 73, KG7BK, CecilMoore@delphi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Jun 1994 03:37:55 GMT
- From: yar.cs.wisc.edu!jhanson@rsch.wisc.edu
- Subject: Legal Protections for Hams
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- I am a candidate for the Wisconsin legislature this fall and (as an Extra who
- cares about ham radio concerns) would like to prepare a sheet for my district's
- ham population. What I am interested in is ideas for state laws that hams
- would appreciate...
-
- Ideas I have so far include:
-
- 1) Opposition to scanner/radio bans, etc.
- 2) Adoption of PRB-1 (with possible revisions) into statutory form (I know
- about federal preemption, but this would make cases easier for hams...)
- 3) Developing stronger partnerships between state and ARES/RACES, etc.
-
- Any input (or money <grin>) you could provide would be appreciated!
- --
- Jason J. Hanson | 22 Langdon Street #220 | (608) 256-1004
- Univ. of Wisconsin | Madison, WI 53703-1344 | Ham: N9LEA (Extra)
- -- jhanson@yar.cs.wisc.edu =*++*= n9lea@wd9esu.#scwi.wi.usa.noam --
-
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-
- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 03:08:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!rogjd@network.ucsd.edu
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2sfn3r$okg@network.ucsd.edu>, <1994May31.173353.21886@cs.brown.edu>, <1994May31.193141.18921@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>■ú
- Subject : Re: Ham Radio few problem
-
- Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
- : In article <1994May31.173353.21886@cs.brown.edu> md@maxcy2.maxcy.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
- : >
- : >As the trustee of a coordinated closed repeater, if anyone told me that I had
- : >a choice to either "open" my machine or loose coordination, I would opt for
- : >choice number three: protect my legal, FCC-recognized closed repeater
- : >coordination via litigation.
-
- : And after enriching the lawyers to the tune of several thousands or tens
- : of thousands of dollars, you could still lose. The FCC does *not* recognize
-
- Hey, what's wrong with enriching lawyers? I start law school in a few
- months. Let him litigate, for goshsakes!
-
- : closed repeater *coordination*. All they recognize is closed repeater
- : *operation*. They recognize coordination status *only* in resolving mutual
- : interference issues without regard to issues of closed or open. The FCC
- : doesn't mandate a particular coordination policy. Coordination policy is
- : a public policy issue internal to the amateur community, made and administered
- : by local amateurs, and courts have traditionally been reluctant to overturn
- : such policies absent a compelling public benefit.
-
- : Gary
- : --
-
- Gary, you are exactly right, and I agree with all of the above. Forgive
- my little fun :-)
-
- --
- rogjd@netcom.com
- Glendale, CA
- AB6WR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 03:13:22 GMT
- From: walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2s8fm0$9hm@chnews.intel.com>, <1994May28.234559.17328@cs.brown.edu>, <2sfed0$ipq@news.iastate.edu>.com
- Subject : Re: Merge the CW test with the Theory Test
-
- In article <1994May28.234559.17328@cs.brown.edu>, md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
- >|> Considering the sources Newsline used to conduct their "poll", it
-
- additional stuff about polls, etc deleted for non-relavance...
-
- Justr like to point out that this discussion thread has been
- conveniently sidelined into the pros/cons of what constitutes
- an accurate poll of the ham community as opposed to a discussion
- of the merits of merging the CW test with the theory test.
-
- It is also worth noting that not one viable opposing viewpoint has been
- aired to refute the suggested merging. Instead, it seems the
- effort has been to quickly change the subject. Me thinks I've struck
- a sensitive and vulnerable area with the suggestion and I'll plan
- to air it in as many venues as possible.
-
- So...forget the polling questions and let's see some real
- discussion of the issue: For a reminder, here's what I've
- proposed:
-
- Retain the 5wpm CW test as is for Novice and Tech+.
-
- For the General, and Extra class tests, merge the CW test
- results (the 10 questions) with the theory tests, thus
- eliminating the pass/fail aspect of the 13 and 20wpm
- testing while retaining CW as a mode being tested.
-
- The above "merging" of CW test results with the theory
- test results provides no more or less emphasis on
- CW than on any other mode or theory subject area.
- Retaining the 5wpm as a stand-alone pass/fail more
- than satisfys all aspects of international treaty.
-
- So...back to the issues and let's try to not get
- sidetracked again.
-
- Cheers,
-
- Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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- Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
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